UPDATING: Admirals and Generals Oh My… Are Being Relieved Of Duty
I will be updating this article as the information keeps coming in, so keep coming back to see if any new information has been posted.
Alot of News Stories are coming out with a denial of General Ham’s departure having anything to do with Benghazi. All of them…including the Fox report originated from the Associated Press.
I am not one to start rumors or spread them, but I find this very interesting considering the fiasco at Benghazi Embassy and our military being told to stand down. For the men and women in uniform, it must have of been a hard thing to watch as former Navy SEAL’s are being murdered alongside our ambassador.
UPDATE: This is an update to the top story.
I recalled a story about General Ham complaining about a growing presence of Al Qaeda militants in Libya. According to CNN the General worked closely with Ambassador Stevens.
Just three months ago, the four-star chief of the U.S. Africa Command warned of a growing threat from al Qaeda and other militant groups in Libya.
“There is a real concern in Libya. As Libya is coming out of the revolution and forming its new government, there very clearly are those who wish to undermine the formation of that government,” said Gen. Carter Ham in a speech to senior military and civilian officials from Africa, Europe and the U.S.“We see some worrying indicators that al Qaeda and others are seeking to establish a presence in Libya,” Ham warned. Ham often worked closely with the late Chris Stevens, the U.S. ambassador to Libya, killed in the attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi.
Ham has been trying to establish the initial stages of a military relationship with Libya, but the effort has been slowed by the presence and influence of armed militias, such as those suspected of being involved in the attack. Ham noted back in June the problem of bringing even more mainstream groups under the control of the central government.
General Ham was already bucking the narrative President Obama was trying to establish. Obama wanted to go into the election trying to make Libya a success story…which it was not.
The stories that are now coming out;
Gen Ham was fired 30 seconds after deciding to intervene in Benghazi: I heard a story today from someone inside the military that I trust entirely. The story was in reference to General Ham that Panetta referenced in the quote below.
“(The) basic principle is that you don’t deploy forces into harm’s way without knowing what’s going on; without having some real-time information about what’s taking place,” Panetta told Pentagon reporters. “And as a result of not having that kind of information, the commander who was on the ground in that area, Gen. Ham, Gen. Dempsey and I felt very strongly that we could not put forces at risk in that situation.”
The Scuttlebutt;
The information I heard today was that General Ham as head of Africom received the same e-mails the White House received requesting help/support as the attack was taking place. General Ham immediately had a rapid response unit ready and communicated to the Pentagon that he had a unit ready.
General Ham then received the order to stand down. His response was to screw it, he was going to help anyhow. Within 30 seconds to a minute after making the move to respond, his second in command apprehended General Ham and told him that he was now relieved of his command.
The story continues that now General Rodiguez would take General Ham’s place as the head of Africon.
That is true to some extent. Stripes confirmed that General Ham will be replaced by General Rodiguez but no explanation was given:
WASHINGTON — President Barack Obama will nominate Army Gen. David Rodriguez to succeed Gen. Carter Ham as commander of U.S. Africa Command and Marine Lt. Gen. John Paxton to succeed Gen. Joseph Dunford as assistant commandant of the Marine Corps, Defense Secretary Leon Panetta announced Thursday.
Both appointments must be confirmed by the Senate.
Rodriguez is the commander of U.S. Army Forces Command and has served in a “variety of key leadership roles on the battlefield,” Panetta said.
He’s “a proven leader” who oversaw coalition and Afghan forces during the surge in Afghanistan, and “was the key architect of the successful campaign plan that we are now implementing,” Panetta said.
It also seems an Admiral in charge of a battle group in the Mediterranean Sea will also be relieved for “inappropriate judgement”;
WASHINGTON (AP) — The Navy said Saturday it is replacing the admiral in command of an aircraft carrier strike group in the Middle East, pending the outcome of an internal investigation into undisclosed allegations of inappropriate judgment.
I find both these stories very odd since I am a former military member. I have never seen an Admiral of an entire battle Group relieved of his command in my 10 years experience. I have seen Commanders, but never Admirals.
UPDATE: Via Las Vegas Sun
The top U.S. military officer is denying reports that Army Gen. Carter Ham’s planned departure as head of U.S. Africa Command is linked to the Sept. 11 attack in Libya.
Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Gen. Martin Dempsey issued a written statement Monday calling speculation about the reasons for Ham’s move “absolutely false.”
Hmmm…. Is General Dempsey acting in the capacity of a careerist or a Patriot? I think both General Dempsey, Leon Panetta and General Ham need to give a press conference togethor. Usually with something as questionable as this, you have the youngest officer state it, then the next highest (General Dempsey) and finally the senior in command which would be Leon Panetta.
Republican Congressman Jason Chaffetz only stated that General Ham confirmed no orders were given. He did not state whether he gave the orders or whether himself, Panetta or General Dempsey came up with a consensus to stand down.
On average a General stays in the Area of Operation 2 or more years. General Ham became Commander of Africa on March 9th, 2011 so it is quite possible he did meet his schedule rotation… just in the knick of time. Wonder where he is heading now?
UPDATE: This is the first story that I have seen which actually states General Carter Ham was fired for disobeying orders “not to assist the US personnel in Benghazi on the night of September 11.”
The founder of the site claims to have 25 years of Intelligence experience. Perhaps the readers can confirm this story. There might be a possiblility that this site is picking up on all the information already flying around the blogosphere and added to it the story.
VIA Gerard Direct
Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta announced on Sunday that General Carter Ham Commander of GOC Africa Command (Africom), headquartered in Stuttgart, Germany. (U.S. Africa Command is one of six unified geographic commands within the Department of Defense unified command structure.) for refusing to obey orders not to assist the US personnel in Benghazi on the night of September 11. Army General David Rodriguez has been appointed by President Obama to become replace him.
One of their partners is the “Center For Security Policy”
UPDATE: According to Republican Congressman Jason Chaffetz who sits on two Homeland Security subcommitees confirms that General Ham confirmed forces were available was given “No” orders to use them. Some bloggers feel this removes the rumor that General Ham was relieved of command because he wanted to disobey an order to “Stand Down”.
I disagree… This only confirms that “No” orders were given from the top (i.e. POTUS or Panetta) to save the Ambassador and the former SEALs
Via FrontPage Mag
We’re not dealing with anonymous sources here. This comes from an interview with Republican Congressman Jason Chaffetz who sits on two Homeland Security subcommittees relaying the responses from General Carter Ham heading up the United States Africa Command (AFRICOM) who had direct responsibility for the situation.
General Ham told Chaffetz that the forces were available, but that no order to use them was given. Defense Secretary Panetta had claimed that the refusal to use force had come from him, General Dempsey and General Ham.
General Ham appears to have broken with that story and is taking no responsibility for the decision not to bail out the consulate and the Navy SEALS.
UPDATE Via Conservative Commune
Friday and Saturday, the news leaked out that Tyrone Woods was found dead, slumped over his ammo-exhausted machine gun on top of the Annex, where he and Glen Doherty had fought against 150 or so al-Qaeda affiliated Ansar al-Sharia militants who followed them from the embassy, waiting for Libyan forces to arrive and relieve them and the other US personnel stationed there, along with those they’d saved from the embassy complex. Rumor has it that the two former SEALs had killed 60 of those militants in the firefight.
Today, administration apologists were all over the networks talking about how unhelpful and partisan it is to demand answers from the White House, who want to get the answers more than anybody . . . after the elections. Oh, wait: administration apologists were on FOX, which was the only network really to address the matter.
More details were delivered by FOX tonight. You really have get a look at the information to see how bad it all looks for the administration. The evidence has been mounting that the White House hung them out to dry. If Woods and Doherty had not relieved the embassy and defended the Annex, the American body count almost certainly would have been much higher. Their heroism was repaid with . . . dead fish.
The administration has thus far refused to release the videos, citing their “ongoing investigation,” but after years of selective leaks and administration attempts to throw the intelligence community under the bus, it’s too late. Apart from FOX, Sharyl Attkisson at CBS (who revealed Obama’s “60 Minutes” statements at the peril of her career there) and Jake Tapper at ABC, the legacy networks and most of their print coreligionists have done everything they can to keep the story under wraps.
Rahm Emanuel also tried to throw a block for Team Obama today, talking about how President Gutsy Call “took control” of that Benghazi business, how he answered the call . . . even as the calls went unanswered.
Four real Americans died. Obama and his crowd of Proggie thugs and apologists have lived to screw another day. They need to be put out of our collective misery.
UPDATE: Tweeted by Moe Lane and retweeted by Elizabeth Scalia, two fairly prominent bloggers.
Moe Lane ?@moelane
I suggest that @barackobama should have Gen. Ham come out and debunk this rumor IMMEDIATELY. LINK LINK
Retweeted by Elizabeth Scalia
This story is making its rounds so eventually Obama or someone else is gonna have to come out. Washington Times, Times123 and AmericanThinker have picked up on the story also.
UPDATE: Gateway Pundit has picked up on it
UPDATE: BlackFive has a little “back and forth” with a legendary Delta Force Operator who said;
Having spent a good bit of time nursing a GLD (ground Laser Designator) in several garden spots around the world, something from the report jumped out at me.One of the former SEALs was actively painting the target. That means that Specter WAS ON STATION! Probably an AC130U. A ground laser designator is not a briefing pointer laser. You do not “paint” a target until the weapons system/designator is synched; which means that the AC130 was on station.Only two places could have called off the attack at that point; the WH situation command (based on POTUS direction) or AFRICOM commander based on information directly from the target area.If the AC130 never left Sigonella (as Penetta says) that means that the Predator that was filming the whole thing was armed.If that SEAL was actively “painting” a target; something was on station to engage! And the decision to stand down goes directly to POTUS!
PJ Tattler has some more info
Hillary Clinton’s Lawyer allegely has documents that prove Obama held back security for the Embassy. She is witholding it incase Obama intends to throw her under the bus. If she decides to hold this from the American people, I will personally make sure the American people never forget that she put her career first before these Patriotic soldiers.
UPDATE: via GatewayPundit
On Friday former Assistant Secretary of Defense Bing West told Greta Van Susteren that if Obama gave the order to secure the consulate in Benghazi on 9-11 there would be a paper trail.
This morning on FOX News Bing West doubled down.
West does not believe there ever was a presidential order:
“In my judgement the audio track will show the White House knew that there was an attack going on. The real critical issue is the president says that he immediately ordered all available assets to help. The military would have put out an order from the president. There’s no question about that… What I’m asking is, “Show us the order!” Mr. President if you said use everything available and our military immediately sent out the order, simply show us the order. I have great reservations that there is no such order.“
Apparently Obama was also in the situation room when it was all going down, So he was directly involved.
UPDATE: I am trying to keep all the stories in one spot, so bear with me…
We have been hearing stories of Obama trying to pass the buck to different agencies. First it was the State Department, then it was the CIA and the military.
Michelle Malkin has info on CIA
CIA: We didn’t tell anybody not to respond to the request for help during the Benghazi attack
Also;
General Patraeus Throws Obama Under The Bus
UPDATE; Via National Review Online
Chris Wallace asked Virginia Senator Mark Warner, a member of the Senate Intelligence Committee, on whether the American drones monitoring the Benghazi attack were armed.
I can understand how it would be politically embarrassing for the administration if it turns out those drones were armed and the weapons were not fired when those men, the Americans, were under attack for 7 hours. I can’t understand how it would give up valuable intelligence. Can you tell me directly, were the drones armed or not that were flying over Benghazi and were recording it in real time?
And he stonewalls:
UPDATE: GatewayPundit
Former National Security Adviser Bud McFarlane told FOX News today:
“You don’t just passively allow Americans to remain under attack for eight hours at a time when you have forces within range and do nothing. The Secretary of Defense was in the White House at five o’clock within an hour of when the attacks started. He could have told him, “Yes. We have special operations peope and F18 aircraft that could be deployed right away. To have known what he had available, to have known that Americans were under fire, and to have done nothing, is dereliction of duty that I have never seen in a Commander in Chief from a president of any party. Outrageous.”
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Patrick
November 4, 2012 at 1:52 am
All these statements every one is making will not change a thing. If change is to be made it will be made by the electorate.
The Commander-in-Chief can relieve any head of command at his leisure. Bush releived General McCrystal in charge of the Mideast Command and was replaced by General Petreas. General Shinseki was fired by Bush because he remarked that only way to win in Iraq was to do it with several hundreds of thousands of troops.
So to place all the ills of the military at the feet of the current President is attempting to say no other President has screwed up. Reagan did with the Contra scandal and Carter with a failed rescue of the Embassy in Iran. And who was CIC when the Lebanon incident occurred? Neither of these former Presidents intervened after the fact. Did we invade Iran or Lebanon?
All this verbal assault will not do anything but united all those who gripe about it anyway. Let the electorate decide who stays or goes. Actually, the choices for the current Presidential election is at an all time low. This means both sides. Right now Kermit the Frog would be a better President than the two idiots currently running for office. JMHO!
Ron
October 29, 2012 at 10:32 am
I don’t care if your a republican or democrat you have to understand what this was all about. Use your eyes and clear mind and decide for yourself what Obama was thinking when he chose not to give the orders to help our citizens in desperate need. He was thinking of his own political ass! this president is not a true Patriot. i will never vote for him again or respect him as long as I live. May God have Mercy on his soul upon his passing someday!
Ron
October 29, 2012 at 10:27 am
2 Words for Obama….Dirty Pr-ck! I’m pissed hell yes!
David Crittenden
October 29, 2012 at 4:08 am
There is credible info that there is a special prosecutor waiting on the sideline until after the election. Hint, it’s not for FAF.
Linda
October 29, 2012 at 2:27 am
The election is only a short distance away, everyone. Let’s overthrow the current administration (i.e. all the clowns & idiots) and put GOD back into the equasion! No more prayer in public places, no pledge of allegiance in school, no ten commandments in courthouses ~~ this is what is wrong with this country and our world today. This country was founded on Christian values by our forefathers. I don’t care if I offend anyone; I am a Christian and we need to go back to REAL Christian values!! God help us all & God bless America! VOTE VOTE VOTE
karyn
October 28, 2012 at 11:44 pm
He had the muslum brotherhood in the White House at the time as well…giving them 1 1/2 million American taxpayer dollars. I could be wrong on the amount…but I find that very suspicious!!
J.R.
October 28, 2012 at 10:57 pm
Personally I believe that Obongo wanted to lose all the information on the 20,000 MANPAD missles, so the US could never recover them,
Edward Slusser
October 28, 2012 at 9:26 pm
What needs to be done is have our military storm the White House and physically remove Obama, Biden, Pelosi, and Reed. Throw them in jail, and try them for treason.Then re-install those military officers that have been relieved from duty. We must physically take back our America.
Nicholas Petersen
October 28, 2012 at 10:05 pm
Mr. Slusser – I want to make sure that I understand you correctly. You’re advocating a military coup?
Theresa
October 28, 2012 at 10:13 pm
2nd Amendment rights of the United States Constitution states; “A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.” To me this also means a “tyrannical government” which is what I see we have now.
Lemoore Best
October 28, 2012 at 9:23 pm
What is it with these OBAMITES, No matter what he does bad. They point to George Bush. Let me say George Bush would have protected and sent security to those who asked to be helped in Benghazi. Obama is trying so hard to stonewall this until after the election it’s pitiful!!!
Tish
October 28, 2012 at 7:09 pm
Alright everybody.. read this
He spoke to the US Marine standing guard and said, “I would like to go in and meet with President Obama.” The Marine looked at the man and said, “Sir, Mr. Obama is no longer President and no longer resides here.” The old man said, “Okay,” and walked away. The following day the same man approached the White House and said to the same Marine, “I would like to go in and meet with President Obama.”… The Marine again told the man, “Sir, as I said yesterday, Mr. Obama is no longer President and no longer resides here.” The man thanked him and again just walked away. The third day the same man approached the White House and spoke to the very same U.S. Marine, saying, “I would like to go in and meet with President Obama.” The Marine, understandably agitated at this point, looked at the man and said, “Sir, this is the third day in a row you have been here asking to speak to Mr. Obama. I’ve told you already that Mr. Obama is no longer the President and no longer resides here. Don’t you understand?” The old man looked at the Marine and said, “Oh, I understand. I just love hearing it.” The Marine snapped to attention, saluted, and said, “See you tomorrow, Sir.”
Liberty Bell
October 28, 2012 at 7:16 pm
Edward Lebron-Frank
October 28, 2012 at 10:05 pm
I can’t wait for that day
Liz
October 28, 2012 at 5:19 pm
Everybody involved should be arrested…. mass arrest everybody involved in letting them die in Benghazi, Libya!!… I am just an average nobody…. And I am appalled at all of this as it is coming out… It gets worse and worse with who knew… And who chose not to help!!…and when we did have some great military leaders deciding NOT to “stand down”… They were immediately released of duty…we need to take over our country and become America again!!…
Darb
October 28, 2012 at 5:04 pm
hey…kinda like how Bush lied about Iraq and had US soldiers killed…maybe we should wake up and oust the bipartisan dictatorship!
Liberty Bell
October 28, 2012 at 5:10 pm
Pssst…. Bush is not the President nor is he running
James P
October 28, 2012 at 11:00 pm
@Darb please provide any proof that Bush lied about Iraq? We had 18 UN Security resolutions that went unheeded by Iraq. All violoations of the surrender they signed for invading Kuwait in the first gulf war. You tell a kid if he keeps doing something or you’ll spank them and then you never do-they’ll never take you at your word. Iraq had every opportunity over many, many years to comply and they never did.
Bill Stuehrenberg
October 30, 2012 at 12:45 am
Thanks for answering that idiot.
Ray
October 28, 2012 at 11:30 pm
The Clinton’s are the ones who originally made statements regarding WMD. Bush went with the best intelligence available and installed a democratic form of government, which is making huge strides in Iraq. Base your accusations on fact, please.
Peggy
October 28, 2012 at 4:10 pm
Sorry, but you cannot disobey direct orders! EVER!
Richard Brown
October 28, 2012 at 6:00 pm
Sorry Peggy..you are absolutely wrong .. you can disobey orders .. and there have been times when soldiers were charged with crimes because they failed to disobey an order given them. Check MyLai in Vietnam.. where soldiers “obeyed an order” to slaughter civilians .. check your history as to what happened to German and Japanese soldiers who claimed they were just following orders when they committed atrocities in WW II –they were executed after trial. In this case the order coming down was the opposite ..not to kill civilians ..but to let them die .. disoobeying such an order should not be punished when you have sworn to protect and defend.
Ben
October 28, 2012 at 6:15 pm
Actually, yes, you can. But being careful to understand the order and why it is not a legal order is paramount. There are many instances throughout the US history where a military member refused an order and in court he was proved correct. Then the order giver is the one in hot water.
Jim
October 28, 2012 at 8:52 pm
Disobeying orders is completely legal. The oath says: “I swear to obey the “LAWFUL” orders of those appointed over me.” Unlawful orders are supposed to be disobeyed. The men who participated in the MiLai Massacre didn’t get away with saying, I just followed orders. They didn’t have to shoot the non combatants.
Ronald Dahle
October 30, 2012 at 11:55 am
Sorry Peggy, but a soldier had a standing order to disobey an order that he knows is illegal!
MudStreamMedia
October 28, 2012 at 3:44 pm
Thanks Citizens News for this information…Keep up the good work!!!
joe
October 28, 2012 at 3:41 pm
Nixon was not anit american and was impeached for much less. We have a president that wants to ruin this country and allowed americans to die
Ben
October 28, 2012 at 6:29 pm
Hi Joe, you stated that “Nixon was impeached for much less.” I have to correct you on this. Nixon was not only not impeached, no charges of any kind was brought against him. After a private deal was made between him and VP Jerry Ford, Nixon resigned. Then, the new President, pardoned him.
The only two Presidents to ever be impeached were President Johnson successor to Abraham Lincoln and Bill Clinton. In both cases after the congress impeached them, the Senate refused to toss them from office.
Donna
October 28, 2012 at 2:23 pm
Word is they were supposed to kidnap the Ambassador the Obama would be the hero and trade him for the blind sheik. Making he look good right before the election. That’s why they were told to stand down. The two seals that were killed weren’t supposed to be there making the kidnap easy. Obama was in on it from the planning with the Muslim Brotherhood.
nausmr
October 28, 2012 at 12:40 pm
How the hell did the American people tolerate what the last administration did for 8 years.
elisa
October 28, 2012 at 1:00 pm
WHY have they TOLERATED/ALLOWED this obamanation the LAST 4 YEARS…..barry is NOT A LEADER of ANY KIND…he is a CHICAGO THUG…and now it shows…ROMNEY 2012….
Tony
October 28, 2012 at 12:27 pm
Do we expect the system made for the elect
To possibly judge correct?
Properly serve and protect?
Materially corrupt
Spiritually amuck
Oblivious to the cause
Prosperously bankrupt
Blind leading the blind
Guilty never defined
Filthy as swine
A generation pure in it’s own mind
Legal extortion
Blown out of proportion
In vain deceit
The truth is obsolete
Only two positions:
Victimizer or Victim
Both end up in destruction trusting this crooked system
Mafia with diplomas keeping us in a coma trying to own a piece
of the “American Corona”
The Revolving Door
Insanity every floor
Skyscraping, paper chasing
What are we working for?
Empty traditions
Reaching social positions
Teaching ambition to support the family superstition?
When the Son of Perdition is Commander in Chief
The standard is Thief
Brethren can we candidly speak?
Woe to the men
Trusted in the chariots dem’
Leaning on horses
They run their intellectual sources
Counterfeit wisdom creating the illusion of freedom
Confusion consumes them
Every word they speak it turns them out really white
Internally they absent of light
trapped in the night and bonded to the Cain of the night
Under the curse
Evil men waxing more worse
Faxing the first
Angelic being cast to the earth
It’s time for rebirth
Burnin up the branch and the root
The empty pursuits of every tree bearing the wrong fruit
Turn AND BE HEALED
Let him who stole, no longer steal
Oh Israel
Surrender for Jehovah is real
How long will you sleep
Troubled by the thoughts that YOU keep
The idols YOU heap
Causing the destruction you reap
Judgment has come
Find it and return to the One
Abandon the flesh
Self-interest: Broadway to death
Pride and the Greed
Hide and subdividing the seed
The knowledge of Good and Evil is what caused us to lie
Caused us to die
Let your emotions be crucified
Renounce all your thoughts
Repent and let your mind be re-taught
You’ll find what you sought…was based on the deception you bought
A perception of naught
Where the majority remains caught
Loving a lie
Not realizing in Adam, all die
Loving a lie
Not realizing in Adam, all die
Loving a lie
Not realizing in Adam, all die
Loving a lie
Not realizing in Adam, all die
-The Mystery of Iniquity, L. Hill
Larry Kessler
October 28, 2012 at 12:20 pm
Richard, I concur, you have nailed it,, they should start impeachment and carry right through the election non-stop . The whole administration should be held in contempt of the constitution the swore to defend
Jewell Satterfield
October 28, 2012 at 11:23 am
I agree with you all. What I do not understand is why he is still President/CIC. To not back our military and/or to not provide back up is egregious. Who would even want to serve in the military anymore?
Charlie T
October 28, 2012 at 10:34 am
What happened to protect and defend? Why does it seem that everyone in DC wants to cover obummer’s a$$ for him and throw themselves under the bus to protect him. Why does no one in DC have a pair to stand up to this liberal idiot who would give our country away for a song. For a man who said he was gonna be the most transparent president, he has failed admirably in that endeavor. His admin has been hiding behind any and everything.
Don LeBrun
October 28, 2012 at 8:22 am
The answer to the incompetent administration is clear. Nov. 6th., 2012 go to the polls and show them the American people will not stand for their deceit.
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Tony Hyde
October 28, 2012 at 7:26 am
Once again the lower in command take the punishment for what their commanders didnt do. These soldiers have a tarnished career now because the POTUS is to weak to take responsibility for his actions.
Burney
October 28, 2012 at 1:21 am
It seems those at the top always get corrupted by the intoxication of their power, even in the military, many are now traitors to their country .
lorilei
October 28, 2012 at 1:08 am
POTUS is already trying to enact Possee Comitatus which is completely against our constitution. To create martial law to enact as police without disaster is against all laws that protect the ppl. This is not a POTUS that is a commander & chief that is loyal to his troops , nor the ppl that elected him. He is the prince of fools , those same fools that vote for him.
ANTICRIME
October 28, 2012 at 11:17 pm
Excuse me, but you need to read-up on Posse Comitatus, my friend!
Eric
October 28, 2012 at 12:15 am
Both these flag officers were going to save lives but O and his lacky didn’t want that so they swept it under the rug and replaced them both before they could be heroes.
Connie Mueller Novak
October 28, 2012 at 12:05 am
Standing before a firing squad for treason sounds good.
Gates
October 31, 2012 at 11:43 am
Standing before a firing squad? I don’t want someone to shoot the president, I just want him out of the White House. He is a disgrace to America. Who could support this man after what he has done (not done) in Libya?
RETIRE 60
October 28, 2012 at 12:03 am
BUT HE HAS TO BE VOTED OUT NOW,,,,
Chris
October 27, 2012 at 11:19 pm
Forget impeachment, a coup d’etat or anything else mentioned. GO TO THE POLLS and VOTE HIM OUT!
ANTICRIME
October 28, 2012 at 11:26 pm
Google: “HACKING DEMOCRACY” and view the full-length video documentary exposing what we are up against with our current electoral system!
Gregory Jensen
October 27, 2012 at 9:25 pm
We will either have a mass resignation of Military leaders or else they will uphold their oath and remove the traitors in both the WH & the Military & this administration.
carri ann
October 27, 2012 at 9:21 pm
The left doesn’t know because the lame stream media is covering this story. I am beyond pissed on what this president is getting by with.
carri ann
October 27, 2012 at 10:19 pm
Sorry meant to say Is NOT covering this story of murder.
Jim Higginbotham
October 27, 2012 at 6:44 pm
If I reply i will go to prison. I will let my actions speak for me in the days to come. I will agree he obama i refuse to capitalize It’s name. I do agree that he is a disgrace to America and a Murder along with It’s administration.
Lauren Gardner
October 27, 2012 at 6:38 pm
It’s Beyond, Beyond!!
magzie01950
October 27, 2012 at 6:37 pm
It deeply disgust me to the deeps of my being what this so called President has done to not only our Americans over in Begazzi but to all of us that love this country.. He is nothing but an egomanic Chicago Thug loser…
davepinoy
October 27, 2012 at 6:23 pm
With punyeta and obama’s treacherous decisions, against americans on the ground, and its pro islam policies, A COUP D ETAT IS IN THE OFFING. I always believe the overwhelming majority of these military personnel are patriotic and morally upright and subscribe to always having the backs of their brothers in arms. OBVIOUSLY OBAMA, PUNYETA, AND DEMPSEY has a different goal in mind and that is, sacrificing americans and american ideology to islam and the communists. It wont be long till these patriots will realize america is being led to its slaughter by a foreigner, muslim, communist, gay, sitting in the whitehouse. Obama if his massive cheating machine prevails or if he retires in the US, should be weary of his safety. These patriots will seek justice for their brothers in the military or in the covert world where obama had fed them to his terrorist brothers.
Orrie
October 27, 2012 at 6:37 pm
I’m surprised it has not happen already! Our military men and women are the true backbone of America and understand what honor means. What Obama and his cabal did to those in Benghazi was pure murder! I hope that the day will come when these terrorist in the White House are all arrest for their crimes against America!
Richard
October 27, 2012 at 6:01 pm
This is an outrage!! Obama must b impeached immediately!!! Nixon resigned for watergate n no one got killed for that shit!! Someone better grow a spine n forget that this president is black n do what is right n not worry about racism bullshit!! This man is just bad!!
Orrie
October 27, 2012 at 6:26 pm
I’m with you, Richard! It has to stop now before there is a mass resignation of military officers who will no longer take orders from these misfits in Washington.
edward Rish
October 27, 2012 at 5:16 pm
How can the American people tolerate what has been going on and continuing to unravel regarding the Benghazi disgrace? Obama must be held accountable and it must start now!! This man is a disgrace and a murder!!!
elisa
October 28, 2012 at 1:01 pm
NIXON was thrown out of the WH FOR MUCH LESS…and no Americans DIED!! barry has got to go and stand trial….PERIOD!
Ben
October 28, 2012 at 6:20 pm
Elisa, your history is a little off. President Nixon, while not at all a good man, was NOT thrown out of office. Charges were never filed. His big mouth simply painted him in a corner and after making a private deal with Jerry Ford, He resigned and Ford, the new President gave him a pardon.